Here are our results based on share - good to see Regent's Park still up there. Notable Labour achievements include Cantelowes (39.3%), Gospel Oak (38.3%) and Haverstock (37%) - which we lost bar one seat in local elections. Winning just Cantelowes - would put Labour and Lib dems on a level pegging at the Town Hall.Greens scored well in Highgate and Kentish Town. The Lib Dems really should be asking some questions...
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So what does this mean? That if in 2010 there is a general election, which coincide with council elections - Kilburn, KT and Cantelowes will go red? This would mean that if it happens and labour keep their current seats in the council, you will have control, with a reduced majority.
Please explain your logic!
Something like that. If these results were replicated then the Lib Dems would be out in all of these wards - they would be on 13 seats (where the Tories are at the moment) and Labour on 25, just shy of a majority.
The Tories would also hope to pick up Belsize on this poll.
Essentially, people will be voting for Brown as they did Ken in the GLAs.
Do you think that Brown has the same popularity as Ken did in Camden?
Overall, Ken was trailing Boris in all polls but it wasn't huge, however, Brown is getting battered in all polls at the moment and Cameron seems to be going towards an easy landslide.
Do you think that people in Camden will be out in force to try and save Brown, like they did Ken?
Do you really think that Brown has the same depth of popularity in Camden as Ken did?
I don't think so. General Elections are different to locals and obviously in 2010 there will be a massive turnout in the polls. But I don't think Brown has it to win you the council back. At the end of the day, no one will be voting Theo Blackwell, but rather, do I still want Brown to govern me?
What do you think?
This is why the 2008 votes are interesting, as they go some way to answering your question directly - they list preference for who voters want to be mayor, then assembly candidate and then for party.
Sure, the Labour Party vote was less than Ken's vote (he had a 10% plus personal in most areas), but the Labour one still won in every ward in the borough bar the Tory heartlands.
Lib Dems still 4th.
So you make it Lab 25, Tory 19, Lib Dem 13? Surely your figures suggest Lab 42, Tory 12?
If you are right, would you go into coalition with the Tories to keep the Lib Dems out? I doubt they would let you go into minority administration so I suppose you will have to.
Nice try, but the only group who goes into coalition with the Tories is the Lib Dems - in order to get power.
I think the best option aside from outright victory is a coalition/partnerhsip with the greens as we saw at the London Assembly.
Nice try but as you well know Camden's constitution insists tat the largest party forms an administration and that administration needs majority support in order to survive. According to your figures the Greens wouldn't win a single ward so the only choice open to you is coalition with the Lib Dems or coalition with the Tories (at least you have a choice - the Lib Dems didn't as Labour refused to work with them).
So which will it be?
Er, whoever told you that we turned down the Lib dems is lying to you.
I know because I was acting leader...
I know Keith Moffitt tried to deal with criticism from his activists by putting about this line, but it was a lie - but clearly a convenient one for you!
The constitution in fact does not state what you say, it says that the largest party forms the executive. Obviously parties want to have their executives confirmed by full council, so need a majority. This will have to be fashioned at the time, so either a Lab majority. I can't speak for the leadership as I don't know what the negotiations would be at the time, but my personal view is that unlike the Lib Dems a coalition will not be had with the Tories and in their present right-wing bent it is very unlikely to be with the Lib Dems.
Labour could also form a minority administraion, and it would be up to the Lib Dems to support it.
I can't see why (hidden) Lib dems like you are so obsessed with this - desperate to remain in power perhaps after poor 2008 results?
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